
##221672 OFF THE WAGON @(Nighttime-footage-) @!BILL-LAGATTUTA-rep : @(Voiceover) It 's Friday night in Barrow , Alaska . qwq @ ( Footage-of-snowmob Unidentified Man 1 : It 's party time , baby . Unidentified Man 2 : Yeah ! @(Footage-of-other-p) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Only this weekend there 's something new in town . Unidentified Man 3 : Yee-ha-ha ! Unidentified Man 4 : Oh . Got to run . Got to party . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) After a full year of going without ... Man 2 : Party , baby ! @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... Barrow , Alaska , has just repealed prohibition ... Unidentified Man 5 : Oh , feeling pretty good . Freedom . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... though not everyone is ready to celebrate . Unidentified Man 6 : I know that when you go for a year without it , all of a sudden you got it again ... qwq @ ( Footage-of-people- Man 6 : @(Voiceover) ... some people are going to overdo it . ' But now we 're back to mainstream America . Give me a Bud , you know . ' And @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @(Voiceover) And now that booze has reached Barrow ... Man 2 : Twenty-four bottles of assorted liquor . Whoo ! @(Footage-of-police-) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... the next 48 hours here are bound to be interesting . Officer CHRIS STETTLER : It 's almost as if everybody is going on a binge to celebrate the village going wet . Man 4 : Wet town ? Right on . @!LAGATTUTA : The fact is you do n't need to have a drink in Barrow , Alaska , to feel like you 're on top of the world . You 're already here . This is 300 miles inside the Arctic Circle , the northern-most city on the continent . And if you want to see the effects alcohol can have on one community , just come up here . @(Footage-of-man-ice) @!Ms-FRAN-TATE-@1Res : This is Barrow -- not much of it , but this is Barrow . We got 21 miles of road which you can drive in about 20 minutes on Sunday . qwq @ ( Speaking-on-the-ra This is KBRW-Barrow . You ca n't drive from here to nowhere except by snow machine @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of person to want to live in a place like this . @(Footage-inside-rad) @!Ms-TATE : @(Voiceover) And I 'm not a professional DJ . I 'm just a weekender. @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Fran Tate is one of 4,000 citizens who do n't mind the weather . @!Ms-TATE : Ah-ha ! @!LAGATTUTA : How cold is it here today , do you think ? @!Ms-TATE : Today , with the chill factor , it 's 44 below , I guess it is. @(Footage-of-restaur) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) She runs one of the town 's three restaurants , Pepe 's North of the Border . @!Ms-TATE : Hey , hey . Hi , Beth . Hi , Mick . How 's things going ? ( Footage of cook ; people ice fishing ; @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) You can eat tacos on the tundra or fish for your food , as the native Eskimos do . @(Footage-of-high-sc) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) You can watch the high school team play . But other than that ... What do people do for fun up in Barrow ? @!Ms-TATE : Drink . @(Footage-of-Stettle) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) And that 's @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ STETTLER : He 's calling for help over at that other house . He 's probably got somebody intoxicated , out of control over there is what it sounds like . @(On-radio) Two-11 , 10-23. @(Footage-of-man-bei) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) This is not big city police work . Unidentified Woman 1 : Get that ( censored ) camera out of here , you ... Officer STETTLER : Hey , relax . Hey ! Relax . Relax . You want to go to jail ? Woman 1 : Yes ! Officer STETTLER : Relax . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) But an hour into his shift , there 's already an arrest for disorderly conduct . qwq @ ( Footage-of-man-in- Officer STETTLER : He 'll spend the night in jail until he sobers up . @(Footage-of-man-bei) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) And it 's weekends like this that put Barrow on the wagon . Sergeant ROGER BLETH : On a typical Friday or Saturday night , we would spend the entire night chasing one disturbance call after another . @(Footage-of-Bleth) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Sergeant Roger Bleth. @!Sgt-BLETH : I would estimate at least 80 percent of them @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ kind of problems , what kind of crimes can you directly attribute to alcohol ? @!Sgt-BLETH : Disorderly activity : assaults , domestic assaults and homicides. @(Footage-of-town) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) So using an Alaska state law that allows each community to decide its own alcohol policy , Barrow a year ago voted in prohibition . Mayor GEORGE AHMAOGAK Sr. : Even though that was a drastic move that we did on our part , that was the only solution . qwq @ ( Footage-of-mayor 's @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Mayor George Ahmaogak . That 's an extreme measure . Was that the only answer here , ban alcohol outright ? Mayor AHMAOGAK : I think that was the only answer . @!Sgt-BLETH : And , you know , it worked . After the town went dry , it was just like turning a faucet off . The acts of violence and disorder just -- just quit overnight . @(Footage-inside-pol) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Crime , overall , for the year dropped 70 percent . @!Sgt-BLETH : Substance-related activities , we had 211 in ' 94 , before the ban , and only 90 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ center were practically empty ; alcohol-related visits to the emergency room , at an all-time low . This is like a laboratory . @!Sgt-BLETH : You bet . @!LAGATTUTA : Yeah . @!Sgt-BLETH : Kind of a grand experiment . @(Footage-of-Tom-Nic) @!Mr-TOM-NICHOLS : Alcohol abuse is the problem , not the use of alcohol . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Tom Nichols , who likes to barbecue in 30 below , thought prohibition went too far . @!Mr-NICHOLS : @(Voiceover) I consider myself a light drinker . So alcohol is really not that important an issue to me . What is an important issue is for the government to continue to interfere in my life . qwq @ ( Footage-of-poster ; @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) He formed a committee , and after a long campaign , got prohibition overturned . What is it that you 'll be able to do now that alcohol is legal that you could n't do a little while ago ? @!Mr-NICHOLS : Drink beer . Have a glass of wine with supper . @(Footage-of-Nichols) @!Mr-NICHOLS : @(Voiceover) And I do n't have to feel like a criminal . Unidentified @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ alcohol had to come back . Too much problems . That alcohol is nothing but problems in here . I wish Tom Nichols would have realized that when he first came here . Mayor AHMAOGAK : People are going to lose their lives . Families are going to break up . Children 's not going to perform good . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Stettle Officer STETTLER : Well , we 're off to Browerville again . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Which brings us back to Friday night . Officer STETTLER : Unknown problem . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Stettle Officer STETTLER : Hi . Unidentified Man 7 : Hi . Officer STETTLER : Can I come in for a minute ? Man 7 : Huh ? Officer STETTLER : Can I come in for a minute ? Man 7 : Yeah . qwq @ ( Sound-of-woman-cry Officer STETTLER : Come on , hold on to my arm here . I -- I ca n't figure out exactly what the problem is other than she 's intoxicated . The husband seemed fine and sober . She 's agreed to go sleep at detox . Unidentified @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ STETTLER : A couple hours , till you sober up . Woman 3 : OK. qwq @ ( Footage-of-Stettle Officer STETTLER : See , everything we 've been on so far tonight has had alcohol involved . Unidentified Woman 4 : @(On-radio) Nineteen-40. qwq @ ( Stettler-arrives-a Officer STETTLER : What 's up ? Unidentified Woman 5 : I need some assistance . Officer STETTLER : I 'm right here . Unidentified Woman 6 : Get her out of my house ... Officer STETTLER : OK . OK . Woman 6 : ... before I kick her out myself . Officer STETTLER : All right . Let 's go . Get in the cab or go to jail . Come on . Right there . Woman 3 : It 's nothing but torture . It 's not good . Sad . @(Footage-of-the-Nic) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) But should the whole city have to pay ? @!Mr-NICHOLS : There 's a minority of individuals in this community who have a problem with alcohol and they take that problem and -- and push it over on to other individuals . @!LAGATTUTA : And you @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the majority for the actions of a minority ? Sure . qwq @ ( Footage-Stettler-w Officer STETTLER : Get in . Unidentified Man 8 : I 'm not drunk . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Try telling that to Officer Stettler . Officer STETTLER : @(Voiceover) Even when you go to help them , it 's as though you 're a -- their enemy . It 's hard to get through to them that you 're there to help them , not to arrest them . @(On-radio) En route to station , one 1080 , disorderly conduct . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Stettle Officer STETTLER : Keep your feet down . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) For the Barrow police , at least for the last 48 hours , unhappy days are here again . @!Sgt-BLETH : This is the activity sheet for the weekend . @(Footage-of-officer) @!Sgt-BLETH : @(Voiceover) We detoxed five people over the weekend . We had 16 intoxicated people removed . We had seven domestic disputes ... Man 8 : Come on , talk to me , boy . @!Sgt-BLETH : @(Voiceover) ... three disorderly conducts . Officer STETTLER : He 'll @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ : @(Voiceover) But I take it you 're not surprised ? @!Sgt-BLETH : No , I 'm not . It -- it will -- it will get worse than this . @(Footage-of-people-) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) For better or for worse , the new law has made Barrow just like any other town in America . Woman 3 : Guess we just have to go on . If that 's what the town voted for , that 's what they wanted . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Woman-# Woman 3 : @(Voiceover) So just have to go on . 
##221673 HERE WE GO qwq @ ( Footage-of-Castill Unidentified Man 1 : All right . Good . @!MAX-GOMEZ-reportin : And now what ? Time to ... @!Dr-STEVEN-STYLIANO : Yeah , now it 's time . @!GOMEZ : ... start the real thing ? @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Now we 're going to just prep and get going and we 'll see how it goes . Unidentified Woman 1 : Millie is ready . @(Footage-of-twins-o) @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) This is operating room E at Columbia Presbyterian 's Babies and Children 's Hospital . qwq @ ( Footage-of-anesthe Unidentified Man 2 : I see , there we go . Here you go . Unidentified Man 3 : Let 's have some Betadine , please . @(Footage-of-preppin) @!Dr-PETER-ALTMAN-@1 : @(Voiceover) Yeah , yeah . I guess we 'll open the abdomen . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : A quick look at the gallbladders ... @!Dr-ALTMAN : Yeah . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : ... and biliary systems . @(Footage-of-Altman-) @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) Dr. Altman and Dr. Stylianos have been here before , separating Carmen and Rosa . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : It 's amazing , in -- in retrospect now , how @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ first time we did this . I just was so excited and pumped and ready . @(Footage-of-twins-o) @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) But this time , things are different . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : I do n't feel that way today . @!Dr-ALTMAN : That 's OK . You shouldn't. @!Dr-STYLIANOS : I just hope everybody in the room stays composed if things do n't go so well . @(Footage-of-Victori) @!ERIN-MORIARTY-repo : @(Voiceover) Five floors above the operating room , the long wait begins for Lucy and Millie 's mother , Victoria . @!Ms-VICTORIA-CASTIL : ( Foreign language spoken ) @!MORIARTY : They 're angels . Unidentified Woman 2 : She says she 's going to try to console them as long -- as long as her children live . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Until she gets her daughters back , the dolls are all she has . Are you praying ? Woman 2 : ( Foreign language spoken ) @!Ms-CASTILLO : Si . @(Footage-of-surgeon) @!Dr-ALTMAN : Nothing left to do but the operation , right ? Unidentified Woman 3 : You have Luz on your side . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Millie on mine . Woman 3 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ gloves , please , Laura . Woman 3 : Right . @!Dr-JAN-QUAGEEBOOR- : All righty . Let them blow the incision up . @!Dr-ALTMAN : OK. @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : OK . Unidentified Man 4 : All right , guys ? @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) The surgeons make their first incision at 11:50 AM. @!Dr-STYLIANOS : We 're just -- we 're going to cut that piece of skin out for culture . @!Dr-ALTMAN : All right . @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : The blood pressure -- it 's good now ? Unidentified Man 5 : Yep . @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : OK. @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) Dr. Quageeboor , the cardiac specialist , will look at the hearts first . @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : Can I have longer forceps , miss , please ? @(Voiceover) The plan is to open the skin and get inside and see if we can have a -- a more precise idea , you know , where the hearts are connected , and how easy or how difficult it will be to -- to separate them . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Just open the pericardium . There is the heart . @!GOMEZ : Thirty minutes into the operation @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ completely separated . Nothing to do . It 's completely separate hearts . They were just lying on top of each other . Once we had the chest opened , they fell apart . @!GOMEZ : And this is as good -- this was the best scenario possible ? @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : This is the best news . This is the best scenario possible . @(Footage-of-nurse-L) @!Ms-LAURA-FLANNIGAN : The news is all good . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Nurse Laura Flannigan ... @!Ms-FLANNIGAN : The hearts were completely separate , not attached at all . Woman 3 : All right . @!Ms-CASTILLO : ( Foreign language spoken ) @!Ms-FLANNIGAN : So that 's the best we could have hoped for , and it 's going very well and the babies are doing very well . @!Ms-CASTILLO : ( Foreign language spoken ) Woman 3 : She 's very happy . She 's -- she feels so much stronger that she feels like she has them each in her own arms and that they 're with her , and she knew this was going to happen , that everything was going to turn out @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ with -- with the division . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) One hour and 10 minutes into the operation , Dr. Altman approaches the next major hurdle ... @!Dr-ALTMAN : Now when you cut these , I 'm going to get my finger under that liver . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) ... separating the girls ' shared liver . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : It 's going to be hairy for a little -- for a while . And this really is the crunch time for us. @!Dr-ALTMAN : Pressure OK ? @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) It 's an extremely dangerous procedure . @!Dr-ALTMAN : Oh , Dan , get ready , here it is. @!Dr-STYLIANOS : I 'll hold it between my fingers . @!Dr-ALTMAN : Well , put the stitch in . Put the stitch in. @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) In other similar attempts , children have died from massive blood loss . @!Dr-ALTMAN : Tie it . Come on . Tie that . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Do your best , Dan . @!OK-we've-got-to-p# @!Dr-ALTMAN : Scissors , please . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Oh , come on ! Bovi ! @!Dr-ALTMAN : Dan , do n't hold on to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) One tense hour later ... @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Nice , nice . @!Dr-ALTMAN : The liver 's divided . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : The liver is divided . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) ... the liver separation is also a success . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : It 's a sigh of relief to get those clamps off -- off the blood supply to the liver . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) Lucy and Millie each have their own liver . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : All of the organs and organ systems have been separated . @!Dr-ALTMAN : So we 're pretty close to having two babies . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : This -- this is what 's left . I 've got my fingers under what 's -- what 's left . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) Two hours and 50 minutes after the surgery began ... @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Nice separation , Dan ! Unidentified Woman 4 : Yea ! @!Dr-ALTMAN : Thanks . @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : Good job . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) ... Lucy and Millie are now two separate baby girls . @(Footage-of-Flannig) @!Ms-FLANNIGAN : We have two babies . Woman 3 : Yea ! Yes ! Oh ! It 's @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @!Ms-CASTILLO : Yeah . Yeah . @(Footage-of-surgery) @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : OK , Betadine. @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) But it 's not over yet . @!Dr-ALTMAN : A lot of hard work remains to be done , if we 're going to get these babies through . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : OK , let 's get -- let 's keep going . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) Now the doctors have to somehow close the huge hole left in the girls ' chest wall by the separation . Lucy is first . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : We 've covered the heart with her own tissues . We 're going to have to break the little bit of breastbone that she has to mold it to cover the heart further . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) It will be even more difficult with Millie. @!Dr-ALTMAN : This is Millie 's heart . When the babies were connected , this heart extended over to Lucy 's side . But now Lucy 's gone , and the problem is going to be tucking it in. @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : You do n't necessarily have to cover this all up . So what you want is something stable @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ : @(Voiceover) Dr. Quageeboor creates a new chest wall for Millie using pieces of Lucy 's breastbone and Gore-Tex . Still , there is concern . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : So this baby 's going to have trouble breathing , huh ? @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) As the team continues to struggle with Millie ... @!Dr-STYLIANOS : There 's no way to join this . I do n't know the answer yet . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) ... Lucy is ready to leave the OR . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Disconnect it . Unidentified Woman 5 : Disconnect . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Ready ? @!Dr-ALTMAN : OK . Woman 5 : There we go . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Things look very , very good for Lucy right now . @(Footage-of-Lucy-on) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Six and a half hours after surgery began , Lucy has made it to the intensive care unit . @!Ms-CASTILLO : Lucy . @(Footage-of-surgery) @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Has the trachea been transferred ? @(Footage-of-operati) @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) But down in the operating room ... @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Do you have a heartbeat ? @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) ... Millie suddenly stops breathing . What happened ? @!Dr-ALTMAN : I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ ventilate . We 'll have to just go see . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Ventilate , ventilate . You ventilating , now ? Unidentified Man 6 : No. @!Dr-ALTMAN : And your tube 's not plugged ? @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Let me have a scissor . @!Dr-ALTMAN : I just want to be sure that those lungs are moving . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) Fifteen minutes later ... Unidentified Woman 6 : Ah , here we go . @!Dr-ALTMAN : Come back here -- and 95. @!Dr-STYLIANOS : OK . Good . @!GOMEZ : @(Voiceover) ... Millie is stabilized. @!Dr-ALTMAN : Whew ! Disconnect . Unidentified Man 7 : Disconnect . @!GOMEZ : Everything was going pretty well . What happened ? @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Whatever it was , it was pretty unexpected and you never can rest -- be too happy about things like this , because all along the way something can happen . @(Footage-of-Millie-) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) At 8:30 that night , Millie finally joins her sister Lucy in the intensive care unit , sleeping for the first time in separate beds. @!Ms-DEBBIE-SCATURRO : Shawn , my son , is our guardian angel @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , and I felt his presence and -- I love you , son . Woman 3 : ( Foreign language spoken ) It 's OK. @!Ms-CASTILLO : ( Foreign language spoken ) @!Dr-STYLIANOS : As we told her , we needed to have a little luck today . I think we did . And we needed to have two very strong little girls , and we had that . So they just wanted to do well . @!Dr-ALTMAN : Good night . Bye . Woman 3 : Thank you . @!Ms-CASTILLO : Thank you . @!Dr-ALTMAN : Bye . Bye . @!MORIARTY : Does it look like -- at this point -- that Victoria 's going do have both of her girls ? @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Yes , it does . It does . Yeah . @!DAN-RATHER-host : Ahead on 48 HOURS ... @!Dr-ALTMAN : One ca n't help but be concerned . @(Footage-of-distres) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... the danger is far from over . @!Ms-SCATURRO : Bye , love . Love you . @(Footage-of-twin-wi) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) One of twins faces a life-threatening crisis ... @!Dr-STYLIANOS : And her one problem @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ And hundreds of miles away , a father waits and worries . @!MORIARTY : Is it hard to be here while they 're in the hospital in the United States ? @!Mr-RAMONE-HIDALGO- : ( Foreign language spoken ) Unidentified Woman 7 : Yes . 
##221674 PUSHING THE LIMITS @(Footage-of-nurses-) @!Mr-STEVEN-SCATURRO : She was very awake yesterday . @!ERIN-MORIARTY-repo : @(Voiceover) It is been eight days since they were separated . @!Mr-SCATURRO : She was very animated . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) The twins are alike in every way but one . @!Ms-DEBBIE-SCATURRO : Look . Can you see her ? She 's holding on . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Lucy is healing ... @!Ms-SCATURRO : She 's got a grip , I 'll tell you . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... Millie is not . @!Dr-STEVEN-STYLIANO : Did they take films ? @!Dr-HOWARD-ZUCKER : I think the X-ray 's coming up . @!Dr-PETER-ALTMAN : When you compare Millie to Lucy , one ca n't help but be concerned , because they 're -- they 're not running exactly neck and neck in this race . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : OK. @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Millie 's lungs are n't working properly , and no one knows why . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : There is n't a good clinical explanation as to why Millie 's had this -- this turn for the worst . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Dr. Stylianos , the surgeon @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ is an infection . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : I do n't think there is an alternative because she 's been ... @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) But Dr. Howard Zucker , head of intensive care , fears more surgery will be too traumatic for this tiny body . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : I do n't know if there is an alternative . @!Dr-ZUCKER : OK. @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) In the end , they go for surgery . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : When things are bad like this , you want to find something , because then you can fix that ... @!Ms-SCATURRO : Right . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : ... and turn things around . @(Footage-of-Millie-) @!Dr-ZUCKER : @(Voiceover) This is where the decisions become very hard . This is where there is no right or wrong in medicine . And it ends up being a joint discussion of -- of the -- what one thinks is really the best way to go . @(Footage-of-Millie-) @!Ms-SCATURRO : Bye , love . We love you . @!Ms-VICTORIA-CASTIL : ( Foreign language spoken ) Unidentified Woman 1 : @(Voiceover) She will pray to God that he puts his almighty hands on the surgeons @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ can get better fast . @(Footage-of-surgery) @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Everything looks fine in there and very healthy , very healthy inside . So she remains a mystery . @(Footage-of-Millie-) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Three hours later , the surgery is over , but the mystery is not . The surgeons can not find an explanation for Millie 's diseased lungs . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : @(Voiceover) Now it 's full-court press on the lungs . There is simply nowhere else to look . @(Footage-of-Stylian) @!Dr-STYLIANOS : It certainly would have been better for Millie if we found some pocket of infection that could have made a big difference to her . She is in really good shape , except the -- her -- her one problem is the most important problem . Now all of the treatments are going to focus in on the -- on her lungs . So many people are spending a lot of time trying get her well , and -- and when all of that effort is not immediately rewarded , there is always a disappointment , frustration . You just keep searching . @(Footage-of-doctors) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) If Dr. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and nurses working to save the girls . It 's a huge commitment of resources for a big city medical center struggling to stay financially afloat . @(Footage-of-hospita) @!Dr-WILLIAM-SPECK-@ : @(Voiceover) The key issue was we were the only hospital in the world that could provide this service . And it was an opportunity to save two lives . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Dr. William Speck , the head of the Presbyterian Hospital ... @(Footage-of-surgeon) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... says surgeons donated their services . The other charges , he says , will be covered by a $ 1/2 million charitable endowment , although he admits costs could exceed that number . You take all of that money for two babies . @!Dr-SPECK : Yeah , why not ? I mean , society is judged on what they do for the very young and very old . And hospitals should be judged the same way . @!MORIARTY : But if you take all of this money , all of this endowment and give it to these two babies ... @!Dr-SPECK : These are endowed beds , right . @!MORIARTY : ... right @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ do n't get those beds , who do n't get the medical care ? @!Dr-SPECK : Maybe . I mean , there 's not a lot of those kind of cases . I mean , we 're not in the business of taking sick children from around the world who do n't have medical care and providing that care at this hospital . But if we can provide a unique service that is not available any place else and which generally is life-saving , we 'll do it . @!MORIARTY : Major hospitals like this have a long tradition of giving free medical care to children for foreign countries . But times have changed . Today , with the combined cost of Millie and Lucy averaging between $ 8,000 and $ 11,000 every single day , critics are wondering , can we afford to do this any more ? qwq @ ( Footage-of-Dr. -Mic @!Dr-MICHAEL-RIE-@1C : The problem is if we do for Lucy and Millie , then we can not do for others . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Dr. Michael Rie is a trauma intensive care physician at the University of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ pink-slipping the doctors and nurses of this country at a ferocious rate . There is tremendous concern that the hospitals continue to be able to provide adequate care . I 'm not even talking about the best care any more , and then when we put a lot of money into something as heroic as the separation of Siamese twins , it gives an image , even if you have those private funds , of being a poor steward of society 's limited resources . The fact that we might be technically able to do it does not give us a moral imperative to do it . @(Footage-of-Zucker-) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Tell that to Dr. Howard Zucker , who runs the unit where Millie and Lucy are fighting for their lives . @!Dr-ZUCKER : You know , a lot of times people will ask that question . Maybe -- maybe we should n't be doing this ... @(Footage-Castillo-l) @!Dr-ZUCKER : ... but I would ask those people to walk up to the -- the mother of -- of these twins and say , ' I 'm sorry , I know that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ can do something to help these two children , but we 're not going to do it . We 're not going to take them . ' And tell that family -- I do n't think that anyone is going to be able to do that very easily , because I -- I could n't do that . @(Footage-of-nurses-) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) But the effort and the cost to save these girls continue to escalate . Just days after her second operation , Millie is not responding to treatment . @!Dr-ZUCKER : All right now , where 's the ... ( unintelligible ) . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) There is only one hope to save her , an artificial lung machine called ECMO. qwq @ ( Close-up-of-ECMO ; - @!Dr-ZUCKER : @(Voiceover) The goal is to try and see if we can rest her lungs and have them heal . This is pushing , you know , technology , pushing the limits of what we can do . qwq @ ( Footage-of-nurse-t Unidentified Woman 2 : The blood pressure is fine , her heart rate is fine . She stable right now @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Is it fair to say ECMO is the last resort ? @!Dr-ZUCKER : Pretty much , yes . @(Footage-of-Castill) @!Dr-STYLIANOS : @(Voiceover) The roughest part is not to be able to explain to her mother what 's wrong with her . Really , in the last few days , it just simply has -- is not clear to us why she is so ill. @(Footage-of-Lucy) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) But on the other side of the unit , there is reason to celebrate . @!Dr-ZUCKER : Lucy . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Lucy continues to improve . @!Dr-ZUCKER : We took out the breathing tube , so now Lucy is breathing on her own , which is very , very promising . She looks good . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : I think she looks pleased . @!Dr-ZUCKER : She looks real pleased . I know . @!MORIARTY : Did you need this ? @!Dr-ZUCKER : Oh , personally ? Oh , I think everybody needed this . 
##221675 HOPING FOR A MIRACLE Announcer : From New York , here is Dan Rather . @!DAN-RATHER-host : Good evening . You 're about to witness something as rare as it is risky . Worldwide through all time , there have been only about 100 successful operations to save children who were born joined together , commonly called Siamese twins . @(Footage-of-twins-i) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) For almost two weeks , doctors at San Diego Children 's Hospital have been weighing whether to try to add to that number , attempting to separate twin girls born joined together . And just today physicians announced their decision to operate on the girls . It is a case remarkably similar to the one you are about to see , an effort to save two small lives and write one more chapter in medical history . More than a story of science , this is a story of hope and of people whose lives are dedicated to making miracles happen . Correspondent Erin Moriarty begins our report . @!JUST-GOTTA-PRAY-# @(Footage-of-twins-M) @!Ms-DEBBIE-SCATURRO : They 're two precious little girls . Look at her smile @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Castillo are five months old . @!Ms-SCATURRO : They 're identical twins , but I think they look -- they -- they have their own look . Millie looks like her mother and Lucy looks like her father . @(Footage-of-twins) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) By now , you know they are n't ordinary babies . @!Ms-SCATURRO : You know , they 're very -- they 're active . They want to start doing something and they ca n't . And I think a lot of it , too , may be they 're frustrated . @(Footage-of-twins) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Lucy and Millie are conjoined twins . @!Ms-SCATURRO : @(Voiceover) I think they 're just frustrated . @(Footage-of-Scaturr) @!Ms-SCATURRO : OK . All right , Sissy . OK . Shh . Shh . Shh . Shh . Shh . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Debbie Scaturro has opened up her home ... @(Footage-of-Scaturr) @!Ms-SCATURRO : What 's the matter ? @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... and her heart ... @!Ms-SCATURRO : A little at a time . @(Footage-of-twin-ea) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... to help them . @!Ms-SCATURRO : And I 've had them since they were @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ tiny . So they 've put on quite a bit of weight . Hi , Sis ? Hi . And Lucy , yes . Millie 's a little bit more personable . She smiles a lot more . Lucy 's much more serious . There you go . I do n't think that they realize yet that they 're -- that they 're individual people . @!MORIARTY : Where are they connected ? @!Ms-SCATURRO : The collarbone to the naval . @(Footage-of-twins-b) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Most people would call the girls Siamese twins , but not Debbie . @!Ms-SCATURRO : We do n't use -- which I think is a negative term -- you know , the Siamese -- we do n't say that . We always say the medical term : conjoined . I do n't like people to laugh or snicker or make jokes . It 's OK . It 's OK. @!Mr-STEVE-SCATURRO- : They 're not freaks . They 're still people . @(Footage-of-Steve-S) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Debbie 's husband , Steve . @!Mr-SCATURRO : You know , looking at Millie and Lucy -- they 're babies , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ . They 're -- they 're just two little babies . @(Footage-of-twins-a) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) But they are a bit of a challenge . @!Ms-SCATURRO : What 's the matter ? All right , all right , all right , all right . Soaking wet . @(Footage-of-one-bab) @!Ms-SCATURRO : They poke each other and they 'll take each other 's bottles out of their mouths . It 's just like having twins , you know . They 're just connected . If there 's any advantages , at least you know where they both are . You know what I 'm saying ? All right . All right . Shh . Shh . Shh . Shh . @(Footage-of-Debbie-) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) When it comes to caring for kids who need help , Debbie and Steve have been here before . @!Mr-SCATURRO : We 've taken , so far , nine foster children in so far . @!Ms-SCATURRO : There you go , baby girl . @(Footage-of-Scaturr) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) They are volunteers for a charity group that helps children get medical care they ca n't get in their home country . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ care of them . @!Mr-SCATURRO : If we did n't do this , I know nine children who would n't be in the condition they 're in right now . @(Footage-of-twins) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) In two days , Millie and Lucy are going to get a second chance at life . @!Mr-SCATURRO : My dream is just the separation , that they 're -- it 's successful and they 're healthy . That 's my only dream . @(Footage-of-hospita) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Doctors at Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center in New York City are going to try to separate the girls . @(Footage-of-X-rays) @!Dr-STEVEN-STYLIANO : This is a very high-risk , extremely complex procedure . @(Footage-of-Stylian) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Dr. Steven Stylianos and Dr. Peter Altman will lead the surgical team . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : It 's this gray zone right in here that -- that holds the key to separation . That 's where the heart -- the hearts and the liver are -- are -- are lying . @!Dr-PETER-ALTMAN-@1 : Technically , there 's two livers , one in each baby , but they 're joined . @(Footage-of-X-rays) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ is two hearts that may or may not be fused . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... they ca n't tell if Lucy and Millie 's hearts are separate or attached , and they wo n't know until the operation is under way . @(Footage-of-X-rays) @!MORIARTY : What happens if you find that these two separate hearts , though , are joined by one wall ? @!Dr-ALTMAN : Really , the question is what happens if it 's determined that you can only come out with one heart ? And that means you can only come out with one survivor . @(Footage-of-X-rays) @!Dr-JAN-QUAGEEBOOR- : The worst-case scenario , I think , as far as I can see right now , is that you would have , like , one big hole in -- in one heart . @(Footage-of-Quageeb) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Pediatric heart surgeon Jan Quageeboor . Does that mean you lose a baby automatically , or ... @!Dr-QUAGEEBOOR : No , I do n't think so . I -- we have to make a decision at that point if that is repairable or not . @(Footage-of-twins) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) If Millie and @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ one more hurdle . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : The third major obstacle will be the -- the reconstruction of their chest wall . qwq @ ( Footage-of-X-rays ; @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Without a strong chest wall , the girls wo n't be able to breathe on their own . @!Ms-SCATURRO : What are you doing here ? Yeah . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Ms. -Sca @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) The challenge is tremendous , but the level of confidence is high . @!Dr-ALTMAN : We think and hope that we can separate the babies and have two survivors . @(Footage-of-Altman) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Why ? Believe it or not ... @!Ms-SCATURRO : This is deja vu . We 've gone through this before . @(Footage-of-Altman) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... they 've all done this before . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : Lucy and Millie are -- are the second set that this particular team , the entire team , has been together to do . @!Mr-SCATURRO : I 'm expecting a second miracle . @(Footage-of-twins-C) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Meet Carmen and Rosa Tavares . Two and a half years ago these twins were also conjoined. @(Photo-of-twins-bef) @!Ms-SCATURRO : @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ about five months old here . @(Footage-of-Scaturr) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Debbie and Steve took the babies into their home and Dr. Altman and Dr. Stylianos separated them . @(Footage-of-Tavares) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) That operation took a team of 52 doctors , nurses and technicians 18 hours to complete . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Carmen- Unidentified Woman 1 : Very good . @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) Aside from some slight nerve damage ... Woman 1 : Now where are you going ? @(Footage-of-Carmen-) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... which requires physical therapy for Carmen ... Woman 1 : One more . Yea . Unidentified Woman 2 : Yea . @(Footage-of-Tavares) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) ... they are now on their own two feet . Unidentified Man : ( Foreign language spoken ) Woman 2 : ( Foreign language spoken ) @(Footage-of-Tavares) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) But Carmen and Rosa had something going for them . @!Dr-ALTMAN : The good news for them was that their lives really were never at risk . They were healthy . Man : ( Foreign language spoken ) @!Dr-ALTMAN : Their anatomy was such that we could predict and know that there @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @(Voiceover) There are no such guarantees this time around . @!Dr-ALTMAN : @(Voiceover) This set is different in that this is life itself . @!MORIARTY : So at this point , you really do n't know whether both babies are going to make it . @!Dr-STYLIANOS : That 's correct . @(Footage-of-crib-mo) @!MORIARTY : @(Voiceover) But everyone agrees it 's a risk that must be taken . @(Footage-of-Castill) @!Dr-ALTMAN : @(Voiceover) These are not a pair of infants that are destined to survive and have normal lives . This is not an option for them . @!Ms-SCATURRO : @(Voiceover) If we leave them the way they are and then one dies of heart complications or something , then the other one 's going to die , and that 's so unfair . We 've just got to pray and hope that this is going to work out . 
##221676 THE TIGHTROPE qwq @ ( Footage-of-school- Unidentified Woman 1 : @(Voiceover) Oh , this is , like , the most exciting thing . Are you guys excited to go ? @!HAROLD-DOW-reporti : @(Voiceover) These Salt Lake-area youngsters are about to get away for the weekend . Woman 1 : You got any colors with you ? Unidentified Boy 1 : No . Woman 1 : No colors. @!DOW : @(Voiceover) But first ... @!Ms-MICHELLE-ARCIAG : What we 're looking for is any kind of weapons , any kind of drugs and any kind of colors. @!DOW : @(Voiceover) ... a quick check to see if they 're packing more than a toothbrush . @!Ms-ARCIAGA : Do you guys want to put your stuff in the truck ? @(Footage-of-Arciaga) @!MYERS : @(Voiceover) Michelle Arciaga of the Salt Lake-area gang unit organized the event . @!Ms-ARCIAGA : We are going to do a think tank with some high-risk kids about gang violence in the community because , as adults , we always want to try and solve the problem , and we do n't ever ask the kids who are @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ . And so that 's what this is about . @(Footage-of-bus-lea) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) Thirty-two young people , under the watchful eye of adults , will be spending the next two days at a nearby National Guard camp ... Unidentified Man 1 : What you 're involved in is what we call a think tank . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) ... talking about something more important to them than their families ... Man 1 : Tell me about your hat . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) ... their gangs . @!DENNY-KANDT-@1Gang : It 's for my gang and shit , man . Man 1 : It 's a gang symbol ? All right . @(Footage-of-meeting) @!Ms-ARCIAGA : @(Voiceover) We have 260 identified gangs in Salt Lake County alone . Out of those , probably between 40 and 50 are really , really active . @!DOW : A lot of people are probably surprised to know that ... @!Ms-ARCIAGA : Mm-hmm . @!DOW : .... gangs do exist in Salt Lake City . @!Ms-ARCIAGA : I was surprised . qwq @ ( Footage-of-boys-on Unidentified Man 2 : The most important thing out here today is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ any other city the same size as us . If there are cities out there that are the same size as us that do n't have a gang problem , it 's because they do n't admit it . Unidentified Man 3 : We 're going to slide this to the other one . @(Footage-of-boys-on) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) It 's Arciaga 's job to try to steer kids like these away from gangs . @!Ms-ARCIAGA : How are you guys going to get over here with that board over here ? @!DOW : @(Voiceover) What 's your biggest problem in dealing with your job ? @!Ms-ARCIAGA : It 's probably walking the fine line between enforcement and intervention @(Footage-of-boys-on) @!Ms-ARCIAGA : @(Voiceover) Because I 'm trying to save kids . Our officers are arresting the same kids . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) One gang member walking that tightrope is 18-year-old Denny Kandt. @!KANDT : Touchdown ! @(Footage-of-Kandt) @!Ms-ARCIAGA : @(Voiceover) Denny 's one of the first gang members that I ever worked with when I took this job . I think he 's a bright kid . I think that he has @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ as long as he hangs around with his gang friends , he will not make it . @(Kandt-shows-gang-t) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) Denny is the only white member of the Hispanic gang called Diamond Street . It earned him the street name Casper . Do you remember the first day you joined the gang ? @!KANDT : I 'd just be proud . Anyone came up to me , ' Where are you from ? ' I 'm like , ' It 's Diamond Street . ' I 'll tell anybody . Yeah , I 'm big , bad Diamond Street gang now . That made me happy , man . It gave me -- I mean , I walked around with my head high . qwq @ ( Footage-of-gang-un Unidentified Woman 2 : ( Over radio ) ... 234 copy one at gunpoint . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) But joining Diamond Street also meant something else : frequent run-ins with the gang unit . Officer DWAYNE RUTH ( Gang Unit ) : What are you flipping gang signs at me for ? qwq @ ( Footage-of-Ruth-sp Officer RUTH : @(Voiceover) Denny would @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ remembers back when Denny first joined the gang . Officer RUTH : I perceived Denny as a troublemaker . I perceived Denny having zero respect for any type of law or police officer . @(Photos-of-Kandt) Unidentified Woman 3 : ( Over radio ) 12-7 , 12-29 ... @!Ms-ARCIAGA : @(Voiceover) He was terrorizing his neighborhood . Graffiti all over the place , threatening his neighbors , threatening their kids , showing guns to their kids . @!KANDT : I 'd aim at everybody . I -- I just wanted to hit them . I did n't think about what they -- how they felt , how their families would feel , how ... @!DOW : How 'd you feel ... @!KANDT : ... what would happen to me ... @!DOWN : How 'd you feel with a gun in your hand ? You held the gun . @!KANDT : I felt -- I felt powerful , man . I felt , yeah , I could do anything . Ai n't nobody saying nothing to me , man . No one 's going to say nothing to me . I 'm going @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of it . @(Photos-of-Kandt) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) Not surprisingly , that attitude led to a 10-month prison stretch for aggravated assault . @!KANDT : There 's a lot of good things that came out of being locked up . I grew up . I had a time to think about everything . I had a lot of -- it was like a rehabilitation , man . @(Footage-of-Kandt-w) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) These days other things seem to matter to Denny ... Unidentified Woman 4 : Come sit down . @!KANDT : All right . Woman 4 : I 've got some good news for you . @!KANDT : Good news ? @(Footage-of-documen) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) ... like earning a high school diploma . Woman 4 : All the credits that you need to graduate , you only have 3.75 credits . @!KANDT : That 's all I need ? Woman 4 : That 's all you need , and you 're through . Unidentified Man 4 : What interests you , though ? @(Footage-of-documen) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) And getting a job . @!KANDT : At the moment I do n't -- I @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ : I just want to work . @(Footage-of-Kandt-i) @!KANDT : That one 's J.P . right there . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) But he 's still not willing to give up his gang . @!KANDT : Hopefully I could do something with my life and still be in a gang . @!DOW : Why is it so hard to make a choice ? What is it that 's pulling you there , that 's keeping you there ? @!KANDT : Friends , excitement , the rush . It 's like a drug . It 's addicting . Everything that comes with it -- partying , just everything , the action , everything that 's around it . @(Footage-of-Dow-loo) @!DOW : Are they 9mm ? @!KANDT : I think these ones are a .380. @!DOW : @(Voiceover) That action includes four drive-by shootings at his home ... @!KANDT : There 's one right there . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) ... where he lives with his father . When you see these things , what does it tell you ? @!KANDT : Someone wants me , man . Someone -- someone 's after me . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ guess , a part that comes along with it . @!Mr-DAVID-TANGERO-@ : He 's really torn between he -- he wants to grow up and he wants to move on , but yet he has this tie with the neighborhood , with the homeys. @(Footage-of-Tangero) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) David Tangero is Denny 's parole officer . @!Mr-TANGERO : The gang is his family , and it 's just like saying goodbye to your family . @!DOW : Have you been able to understand the commitment , to understand the bond that gang members make with o -- with each other ? @!Mr-TANGERO : I have n't , and -- and that 's what 's hard with law enforcement communities , people in the school and so forth , to just -- you know , they -- they lecture to kids and say ' Leave the gang . Why ca n't you just tell them you do n't want do that anymore ? ' And they ca n't . They can't. @(Footage-of-confron) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) A lesson learned at the conference , where a fight broke out between rival gang members . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ of the hatred that these kids feel for each other . @(Footage-of-Arciaga) @!DOW : @(Voiceover) But Arciaga , who has been called naive for thinking gang members can change , says it 's all part of her job . @!Ms-ARCIAGA : @(Voiceover) You have to work with gang members a very , very long time to see any change . It takes them a long time to change . You know , I think that 's our detectives ' frustration with Denny Kandt , is that they 're saying , ' Let 's just lock him up and put him away . ' And I 'm saying , ' Well , if you can catch him doing something , great . But until he goes to prison , I 'm going to keep working with him because I still think that there 's a chance that he could be saved . ' @(Footage-of-Arciaga) @!Ms-ARCIAGA : @(Voiceover) And so if that 's naive , then I 'm naive . @!DOW : @(Voiceover) Denny , you have that commitment -- that lifetime commitment to this gang , the Diamond Street gang . Is @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ I do n't know . Everyone says there 's either two roads : death or prison . I just want to beat the odds . @(Footage-of-Kandt-o) @!KANDT : @(Voiceover) I know I can make it . 
##221678 REBELS WITH A CAUSE qwq @ ( Footage-of-spectat Unidentified Man 1 : Ready , Craig ? @(Excerpt-from-Strai) @!BILL-LAGATTUTA-rep : @(Voiceover) These kids today -- totally out of control . Piercing their faces ... Unidentified Man 2 : @(Voiceover) Yeah . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... tattooing their bodies . @!Mr-D.J-ROSE-@1Musi : I guess we 're changing the rules . @!LAGATTUTA : You 're rebelling. @!Mr-ROSE : I 'm completely rebelling . We all are . @(Footage-from-Strai) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) But before you jump to any conclusions ... @!Mr-ROSE : Heavy , Mike . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Rose ; -s @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... listen to what D.J . Rose and the other young people at this club in Syracuse , New York , are rebelling against . @!Mr-ROSE : We 're the real alternative . Mainstream society says , ' Drink , drink , drink , smoke , consume . ' And we 're saying , ' Think about what you 're doing . Eliminate poison from your -- from your life , ' you know ? @(Footage-from-Strai) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) They call themselves Straight Edge . @!Mr-ROSE : @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 's a lifetime commitment to abstain from alcohol , drugs , cigarettes . @(During-concert) You guys OK ? It has nothing to do with clothes or earrings or tattoos or hairstyles . It has to do with a change within yourself . @(Footage-of-Rose-li) @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) Leading a clean lifestyle -- that 's my goal for my life . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) D.J . ' s commitment springs from family values . @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) Cocaine . I was really young . I -- I knew a lot about drugs . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Rose ; -p @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) But in his case , they were negative values that had a lasting effect on his life . @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) You 're a little kid and you just love your father , you know ? But , you know , when you see your father , like -- with like a mirror and a razor blade and some white lines and then ... qwq @ ( Footage-of-Rose ; -p @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) His father was a drug user who abandoned the family when D.J . was a small child . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ up to their father and they learned from their father . I learned what not to do . I saw the opposite of way things should be . I -- I saw that you should respect people ; you should support your children . Rose 's Mother : Hi , D. @!Mr-ROSE : Hi , Mom . @(Footage-of-Rose-an) @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) My mom was a great woman who had an addiction . Rose 's Mother : What 's going on ? @!Mr-ROSE : Nothing . @(Footage-of-Rose-an) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) D.J . ' s mother is a recovering alcoholic . Rose 's Mother : I -- I 'm a child of the ' 60s , you know . I went through the whole nine yards . Everybody drank , everybody smoked dope , everybody smoked cigarettes . You know , I 've been there , and I do n't want any of my kids to go through that . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Rose-an Rose 's Mother : @(Voiceover) As far as D.J . being Straight Edge , I think it 's great . It 's noth -- nothing like Woodstock . @(Footage-of-Rose-pl) @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the Woodstock generation . qwq @ ( Vintage-footage-of Group : ( In unison ) Peace now ! Peace now ! @(Vintage-footage-of) @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) Their movement was what started ours . They started all these fantastic changes , and they never got a chance to finish them . qwq @ ( Vintage-footage-pe Unidentified Man 3 : I -- I mean , I like to turn on , man . @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) The drugs took them out , you know ? Unidentified Woman 1 : Wow . @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) And they were crushed by drugs . We 're the -- we 're the second wave . We 're -- we 're in it to win it . @(Footage-of-person-) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Like the young people of the ' 60s , Straight Edgers want to save the world . @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) That 's all I want to do is promote animal rights , you know , respect for the environment . We print these shirts , usually have a Straight Edge theme to them ... Hand me a stack of those . @(Footage-of-T-shirt) @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) ... and sell them @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ together . And that 's -- that 's my concern . I 'm concerned about the future . @(Footage-of-Rose-pr) @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) Why eat meat if I do n't have to ? Because it 's killing . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) You 're more than a vegetarian , right ? @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) I 'm a strict vegetarian , which is called veganism. @(Footage-of-bumper-) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Veganism : no animal products whatsoever . @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) This stuff is good , Nana . We eat , like , meat substitutes , a lot of soy-based products . I 've got a garden burger with A-1 Steak Sauce and a little pasta salad . Vegan meal -- voila @(Footage-of-Rose-an) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) If you 're in Straight Edge , there 's no drinking ... @!Mr-ROSE : Right . @!LAGATTUTA : ... and no smoking cigarettes . @!Mr-ROSE : Correct . @!LAGATTUTA : What about -- what about promiscuous sex ? Do Straight Edgers abstain from sex ? @!Mr-ROSE : Some do . If you respect someone , you wo n't be having promiscuous sex . You know , it comes under respect @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ n ' roll . Straight Edgers say , ' Well , one out of three is n't bad . ' And they 're spreading their message through their music . One of their leading bands is called Earth Crisis . @(Footage-of-Earth-C) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) We caught up with them here in Portland , Oregon , on their 25-city tour . @!Mr-CARL-BEEKNER-@1 : Every tour we go out , I see that there 's more and more people . @(From-concert) This first song is about animal liberation . @(Footage-of-concert) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Like all Straight Edge songs , it 's music with meaning ... @(Excerpt-from-conce) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... if you speak the language . Maybe I 'm just old . I -- I -- I know I 'm a little deaf after listening to you . What -- what are some of the lyrics ? What are you saying up there ? @(Footage-of-Lagattu) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Lead singer Carl Beekner : @!Mr-BEEKNER : We have songs about environmentalism , songs about treating other people with respect . @(Footage-of-Earth-C) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Thankfully , Earth Crisis ' lyrics come with the CD. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ . @!LAGATTUTA : Are you making any money at this ? @!Mr-BEEKNER : Not yet , but that 's not really what this is about . It 's about trying to reach people with a message . @(Footage-from-Earth) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) And thousands across the country are hearing the message . @!Mr-BEEKNER : @(Voiceover) The movement is gaining momentum . @(Footage-of-an-X-be) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Back in Syracuse , D.J . is living the message . @!Mr-ROSE : The X -- it means drug-free , Straight Edge . @(Footage-of-X-on-Ro) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) That X is a badge of commitment . @(Footage-of-Straigh) @!Mr-ROSE : We 're like one big family . We 're here to jump around on each other and to have a good time . @(Voiceover) The music is the focal point . It makes a family bond . @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) And the dancing ? Explain something to me . What 's all the pushing and shoving about ? @!Mr-ROSE : It 's aggression . It -- it helps us get out our energy in a positive way . @(Footage-of-concert) @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) If you jump , someone 's going @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 's going to pick up , you feel a lot better afterwards . @(Footage-from-conce) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) Whatever you think of the music and the movement ... @!Mr-ROSE : @(Voiceover) We 're going to continue to think and to -- continue to question our values . @(Footage-of-Straigh) @!LAGATTUTA : @(Voiceover) ... Straight Edgers say they 're in it for life . @!Mr-ROSE : If you say you 're Straight Edge , it 's like making a promise to yourself and , you know , kind of to other people . It 's like you 're saying , ' This is what I 'm doing forever . ' @!LAGATTUTA : Are you guys out to change the world ? @!Mr-ROSE : I am . I think that anyone who makes a positive change in their life is out to change the world . It 's all about , you know , we want to change the world . One by one , we can do it . @(Footage-of-concert) @!DAN-RATHER-@1Host@ : I 'll be back with some final thoughts after this . 
##222059 RETURN TO CRACK STREET @!DAN-RATHER-host : It began as a bold experiment : to take cameras where they 'd never been before and to show you the world as never before . We could n't have imagined what we 'd find . Good evening . And welcome to this 10th anniversary edition of 48 HOURS . Tonight you 're watching the results of that experiment , a weekly program that has become a living portrait of the last 10 years . Our first broadcast was a groundbreaking documentary , 48 HOURS on Crack Street , an unprecedented look at a deadly epidemic of the 1980s . This evening , to see what has changed over this past decade and what has n't , we begin where this broadcast began . @(Footage-of-police-) @!Mr-BOB-SCARILLO : It will be the third floor . You never know what 's on the other side of the door . Unidentified Officer 1 : Maybe it 's locked . Freeze ! Freeze ! Unidentified Officer 2 : Police ! Freeze ! @!Mr-SCARILLO : No lights on . No phones , no lights at all . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ a bulb out of the hallway . @!Mr-SCARILLO : Let 's do it systematically , huh ? Officer 1 : Chief , we 've got about a key in here . @!Sgt-TUCCI : All right . All right . Officer 2 : Baby , baby , baby ! All right , all right , all right ! It 's the voodoo . @!RATHER : So what 'd you find ? Unidentified Officer 3 : The mother lode , boss . qwq @ ( Footage-of-police- Officer 3 : Wholesale , maybe $ 22,000. @!Mr-SCARILLO : That 's a full -- that 's a full kilo , probably pure . @!Sgt-TUCCI : Come and take a look what else . Officer 3 : What ? @!Sgt-TUCCI : Look at these bags full . Officer 3 : Bag after bag , hand over fist . @!Sgt-TUCCI : ... $ 20 vial . Officer 3 : All cocaine ready to be sold on the street . @!Mr-SCARILLO : This gold jewelry ... @!Sgt-TUCCI : It 's not too ostentatious . Something you wear to church on Sunday . @!RATHER : This is what the well-dressed @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ drug dealers wear the anchor ? @!RATHER : Got the anchor , a drug dealer 's sheath . @!Mr-SCARILLO : More ? Officer 2 : More money , everything . Look at this ! It 's all worthwhile . All them little street arrests and everything . @!Mr-SCARILLO : Case closed . @(Footage-of-narcoti) @!Mr-SCARILLO : There is crack . Officer 2 : Voodoo key . @!Mr-SCARILLO : This is crack . Hey , man . @(Photo-of-Rather-wi) @!Mr-SCARILLO : @(Voiceover) You look the same as -- as you did in that . That 's an ' 89 picture , if you remember . qwq @ ( Seven-years-later , @!Mr-SCARILLO : Mr. Rather , how are you ? @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) They 're still at it . @!Mr-SCARILLO : Good to see you again . You , too . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) Director Bob Scarillo ... That must be my confirmation picture -- and yours , huh ? @!Mr-SCARILLO : Yes . @(Footage-of-Tucci) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... Sergeant Gerard Tucci ... Good to see you again . How you doing ? @!Sgt-TUCCI : Good . @(Footage-of-Tucci-g) @!Sgt-TUCCI : Bobby and Bobby , go @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ the Essex County Narcotics Bureau . @(Footage-of-Tucci-i) @!Sgt-TUCCI : ( Over car radio ) Just waiting on your word . Watch your set . @(Voiceover) I mean , because , you know , we 're sticking our fingers in a dike here basically . Police ! Unidentified Officer 4 : Hands up , buddy . @!Sgt-TUCCI : Get out . Put your hands on the counter , brother . Get out . Get out . Put your hands on the counter . Do n't let me tell you again . Hands on the counter ! @(Footage-of-Tucci-i) @!Sgt-TUCCI : We 've got a responsibility to the everyday people here that want to live their lives to come and stop it . @(Footage-of-Tucci-m) @!Sgt-TUCCI : Arrest . You 're under arrest . Unidentified Man 1 : What am I under arrest for ? @!Sgt-TUCCI : Selling drugs . Turn around . @(Footage-of-Tucci-w) @!Sgt-TUCCI : Just because it got through the border do n't mean we can turn our back on it . @!RATHER : Do you consider yourself an idealistic person ? @!Sgt-TUCCI : Yeah , I would say idealistic . Sure . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 'd say , ' This is stupid . I might as well go home . ' qwq @ ( Footage-of-Tucci-l Officer 4 : Another day in the hood , Serg. @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) The fight remains the same ... @!Sgt-TUCCI : OK . It 's closed for now . @(Footage-of-Tucci-t) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... but the enemy ... @!Sgt-TUCCI : Open your hand . Come here . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... is different . @!Sgt-TUCCI : Give it to me , jerk off . Give me it . Lift up your tongue . Lift it up ! @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) The enemy is no longer crack . @!Sgt-TUCCI : Come over here . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) Now it 's heroin . @!Sgt-TUCCI : And a dealer got caught flat-footed here ; of course , he 's got heroin . @(Footage-of-car-dri) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) Since we were last in Essex County ... qwq @ ( Footage-of-Tucci-s Unidentified Officer 5 : @(Voiceover) This stuff was found on a dresser. @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... heroin seizures have increased more than 20-fold . Officer 5 : Fifty bags here . It 's $ 500 . @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ , so you have $ 2,000 worth of heroin right here . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Tucci-s Detective NICK EVINCI : There he goes . Two white people went in the lot , made their score . @!Sgt-TUCCI : You 've got white people coming from the suburbs , the businessmen coming down . You 'll see working guys , blue-collar guys . @(Footage-of-Tucci-p) @!Det-EVINCI : Yeah , look , another guy just came out of that abandoned building , right ? @!Sgt-TUCCI : Yeah . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) Nationwide the number of heroin users has doubled since 1988. @(Footage-of-suspect) @!Sgt-TUCCI : There he is. @!Det-EVINCI : Yeah . @!Sgt-TUCCI : He 's putting it ... @!Det-EVINCI : He 's put -- he 's putting a spike or he 's putting the bag in -- in -- in -- in his pants . @(Footage-of-suspect) @!Det-EVINCI : Come over here . Pull your shirt out . What 'd you tuck in there ? No , you 're going to -- you 're going to go to jail in two minutes . Take it out . Whatever you tucked in there -- you 've @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ going to methadone clinic tomorrow . Please , Officer , have -- have -- spare me . I 'm going to the methadone clinic tomorrow . @!Det-EVINCI : You 'll go to the methadone clinic when you get out of jail then . @!DAVE : Please , Officer , please give me a break . I mean , I 'm sick . I 'm down to my last day , I 'm going to the methadone clinic tomorrow . @!Sgt-TUCCI : Let me see your arm . @!Det-EVINCI : This is -- this is full , you 're ready to shoot this . @!Sgt-TUCCI : He just shot it . Let me see your arm . Let me see . @!DAVE : No , I just did it . @!Sgt-TUCCI : You just did it . @!DAVE : I 'm going to the methadone clinic . @!Det-EVINCI : What 's in here ? What 's ... @!DAVE : It 's just water in there . @!Det-EVINCI : Yeah , water . @!DAVE : I 'm begging you , please . I want to -- I 'm sick of this sh -- @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ fly straight . Please , Officer , I 'm begging you . You 'll never see me around here again . My letter is being -- is written ... @!Det-EVINCI : And if I do , what could happen then ? @!DAVE : If you see me again , then lock me right up because you wo n't see me here again . I 'm getting my letter for today , and then I -- I start the clinic -- I 've got to be there at 6:00 tomorrow morning on Blanchard Street . @!Det-EVINCI : You really want to do this or are you going to be back here ? @!DAVE : Yes . I 'm not going to be back here . This is what I want to do . @!Det-EVINCI : You sure ? @!DAVE : Yes -- my life -- I 've got to save my life . I 'm only 27 years old . I got to save my life . @!Det-EVINCI : Go ahead . @!Sgt-TUCCI : You 're young , buddy . @!DAVE : Thank you , man . @!Det-EVINCI : Get rid of @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ 'll never see me here again , I swear to God . @!Det-EVINCI : Yeah , OK . See you next week . @(Footage-of-Dave-wa) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) He told us his name is Dave and to call him in a week . He said he 'd be clean . We 'll see . @!Det-EVINCI : Well , you saw , he was begging for -- for mercy . If he goes tomorrow and something works out , then I guess it worked out good for him and everybody . @(Footage-of-Evinci) @!RATHER : Detective Nick Evinci is pessimistic . @!Det-EVINCI : If we saw him back here in a week or two , that would not surprise me at all . @(Footage-of-Tucci-a) @!Det-EVINCI : Police . Come here . @!Sgt-TUCCI : Police . @(Footage-of-Evinci-) @!Det-EVINCI : There 's people out here that , you know , at one time were perfect specimens . @!Det-EVINCI : Dope bags all over the joint . @(Footage-of-Tucci-a) @!Det-EVINCI : @(Voiceover) And you see them now , they look like dying -- dying animals . Unidentified Woman 1 : I only weigh 80 pounds . I 'm @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ limit , you know , of how much to -- to inject , you know . I -- it 's common sense basically . You know , you 've got to be careful . Always test your -- your product first . Never inject all of it all at once . @(Footage-of-Evinci-) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) What is the allure ? @!Det-EVINCI : OK . There 's another deal . See him ? @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) What accounts for the stunning surge in heroin use ? @!Det-EVINCI : There 's no one immune to this . @!RATHER : Quality 's up , price is down . @!Det-EVINCI : Quality is excellent around here , they claim . @(Footage-of-Evinci-) @!Det-EVINCI : What 's your name ? @!Mr-SCARILLO : They made it strong enough . They could just smoke it or snort it and get the same kind of effect without injecting . Unidentified Man 2 : Yeah . Yeah . I thought it was taboo , too . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) Because it 's pure enough to sniff instead of shoot , it 's more acceptable . Man 2 : I thought it @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ it once , and then you do so many bags a day , and it 's -- and it 's not taboo no more . It 's -- you know , it 's a $ 10 high . It 's , you know ... @(Footage-of-Man-#-2) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) But it does n't stay a $ 10 high . @!Det-EVINCI : How long you been shooting ? Man 2 : A few months . @!Det-EVINCI : You 're pretty new . Let me see . Man 2 : Yeah , a few months . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) As the addiction grows , sniffing leads to shooting ... @!Det-EVINCI : The other side 's a little jabbed up . Man 2 : Yeah . @(Footage-of-Man-#-2) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... because that 's the fastest , cheapest high . qwq @ ( Excerpts-from- " Pul @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) It 's more potent . It 's more popular . Featured now in movies like " Pulp Fiction " and " Trainspotting , " it 's enough to appall even a real junkie . Unidentified Man 3 : And they have movies and -- and commercials @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ getting off , mixing it up in a spoon , getting off or sticking the needle right in his -- why do they show that ? @(Excerpt-from-movie) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) In fact , the junkie look is downright chic . @!Mr-SCARILLO : @(Voiceover) Anything could be sold to our young people . Madison Avenue has a way of doing that . And I think that we can sell the idea that it 's bad to use drugs , and I do n't think we 're doing a big enough job on that end . @!RATHER : Overall , your opinion : Things are better or worse than they were when I was here in 1989 ? @!Mr-SCARILLO : Back when you were here , there was a good thing happening . I -- I saw a lessening of use in our schools and our colleges . Back then it was -- it looked like we were winning a little bit . Now it does n't look that way . @!RATHER : Far away from the streets of Newark , some people are faulting the president for not using his powers to @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ shows that the use of narcotics among American teen-agers has skyrocketed just the past few years . While Americans seem to have lost their heart for the fight ... qwq @ ( Footage-of-an-offi Unidentified Officer 6 : We have a prior sale on her . She sold two bundles to our undercover ... @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... these men continue ... qwq @ ( Footage-of-police- Officer 6 : @(Voiceover) I 'm going to use the two-man ramp . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... bailing a sinking ship , one teaspoon at a time ... Unidentified Officer 7 : Try to keep it safe , Johnny . Do n't ... @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... every day and every night . Officer 7 : We 're ready to go . Officer 6 : Intelligence indicates there 's several small children in the apartment . @!RATHER : OK , folks , this is it . Officer 7 : OK . Be careful . Get out ! Get out ! Keep an eye out . We 'll be looking . Go , go , go , go , go . Police ! Hands , hands , @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ We 'll take care of your kids . That 's -- that 's the only worry you do n't have . We 're going to take care of your kids . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) A neighbor responds . Unidentified Child : Mommy , do n't want her to die ... Unidentified Man 4 : She ai n't going to die . Come on now . Come on . qwq @ ( Footage-of-childre Officer 7 : @(Voiceover) Oftentimes , you feel like you 're fighting against a tide doing these little -- these little jobs . Unidentified Officer 8 : So right now it 's about maybe $ 1,500 so far . qwq @ ( Footage-of-neighbo Officer 7 : @(Voiceover) We 're not going to forget the decent people trying to make it through here . @!RATHER : This heroin -- exactly where did you find that ? Officer 8 : It was in one of the left back bedrooms . @!RATHER : And the mother ... qwq @ ( Footage-of-woman-i Unidentified Woman 2 : Go get my two kids ! @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... said that was her room . Officer @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ n't know anything about it . Officer 8 : That 's what she said . @!RATHER : She also asked you -- asked you not to smoke in there . Officer 8 : She asked me not to smoke in her apartment . Just heroin 's allowed , no cigarettes . @(Footage-of-child-h) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) The children 's grandfather has come for them . When they got inside , they say they found some heroin -- they showed some heroin . Would you be surprised at that ? Man 4 : Well , it 's all around , man . That would n't be surprising , no . Officer 7 : Close to 200 decks of heroin , three arrests . @(Footage-of-woman-b) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) The mother is charged with conspiracy to distribute heroin . Her case is pending . @!Sgt-TUCCI : It 's going to be all right , all right ? @(Footage-of-rundown) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) This building was a favorite source of heroin for Dave ... @(Footage-of-Dave-sp) @!DAVE : Yes , my life -- I 've got to save my life . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... the addict we @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ life . @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) He 's glad to see it raided . @!DAVE : Get these dealers off the street , and then it wo n't be there for people like me , you know , to ruin their lives , you know ? It 's -- it 's a killer . It 's a real killer . It 's the devil . @(Footage-of-broken-) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) Next ... Is this where you shot up ? @(Voiceover) ... the story of Dave 's descent into heroin addiction ... What in the hell were you doing in here ? @(Voiceover) ... and his search for the woman ... @!DAVE : And this is the girl I got involved with . @(Voiceover) ... who led him to this place . @(Photo-of-Dave-and-) @!DAVE : @(Voiceover) Beautiful girl . I think she 's still out there . I would love to start over with her . I spoke to her about it and she wants to do the same , but I have n't heard from her in three weeks . 
##222060 DAN @!RATHER , host : Since Ericka was born , there have been great advances in treating AIDS . New drugs hold out hope that the other Erickas out there will live longer with this disease and ultimately survive it . Once that seemed unlikely . But as we found so often on 48 HOURS , faith , science and the human spirit can surprise us all . Richard Schlesinger has a case in point . @(Footage-of-Staten-) @!JOEY-D'PAOLO : Can I drive right now ? Unidentified Woman : You can drive right now , hon , OK ? Happy birthday . @!JOEY-D'PAOLO : Cool . Thank you . @(Footage-of-Joey-ge) @!RICHARD-SCHLESINGE : @(Voiceover) For any teen-ager , getting a driver 's license is a sign of maturity . But for Joey D'Paolo , it 's a sign of survival . Driving is a very big thing for you . D'PAOLO : Yeah , I thought it would never happen . Finally . @!SCHLESINGER : But it 's a little more of a milestone , I would think , for you than ... D'PAOLO : Oh , yeah . @!SCHLESINGER @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Thinking that I actually made it all this way after the doctors gave me a limited time to live . It 's like now I can laugh in their faces and be like , ' Ha , ha . Look how -- look how old I am now . You were wrong . ' @(Footage-of-D'Paolo) @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Joey D'Paolo has AIDS . He is 17 and got the disease after a blood transfusion at age four . He was n't supposed to see the third grade . Today he 's a senior in high school . Unidentified Boy 1 : You got your car ! I ca n't believe you got your car , man . I love you . @(Footage-of-D'Paolo) @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) When we first met Joey , he was 11 years old . He had recently gone public with his disease and had just won a fight against his own neighbors just to enroll in school . Do they know about your sickness ? D'PAOLO : Yes . Well , my friends , they do n't really care except for like there 's this little kid that @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ : He runs away from you ? D'PAOLO : Yeah . @!SCHLESINGER : Why ? D'PAOLO : I do n't know . I think maybe he thinks that he can catch it or something . @(Footage-of-D'Paolo) @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) They are n't running away from Joey anymore . D'PAOLO : I took my car here today . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) You 're dating now , right ? D'PAOLO : Yeah . @!SCHLESINGER : And these girls are n't afraid of you ? D'PAOLO : Mo -- most of them aren't. @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) In fact , he is one of the most popular kids in school . Boy 1 : I know he has AIDS , but I do n't -- I do n't think of him as somebody who has AIDS. @!SCHLESINGER : How do you think of him ? Boy 1 : I think of him as a friend . I think of him as somebody who 's very brave . I have a lot of ... @!SCHLESINGER : Great . Boy 1 : I admire him . I have a lot of respect for Joey . Unidentified Boy @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ different time . @(Footage-of-Joey-wi) @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Time was supposed to be Joey D'Paolo 's enemy . Instead it has proven to be his ally . With time have come the medical advances that have kept him alive . @!Ms-CAROL-D'PAOLO : He is healthier now than he was six years ago . His T-cells are more ... @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Carol D'Paolo is Joey 's mother . @!Ms-D'PAOLO : So I do n't -- I do n't see it that he is getting older and he 's getting closer to death . @!SCHLESINGER : How do you see it ? @!Ms-D'PAOLO : I see it that we 've won one more battle , you know , and hopefully we 'll win the war . qwq @ ( Footage-of-D'Paolo D'PAOLO : Call me and ... @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Make no mistake , Joey is still sick but he is responding to medication , at least for now . qwq @ ( Footage-of-D'Paolo Unidentified Woman : He is doing real well . He 's , like , gaining weight and height . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Today he 's on an experimental drug given @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ new medicine but it 's the same old routine . Unidentified Man : Just the study drugs , not anything else . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Joey has lived most of his life with different kinds of treatments . You must remember the days when a baby with AIDS was -- was a baby who was going to die , no question . @!Dr-LAUREN-WOOD : An adult with ... @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Lauren Wood is Joey 's doctor . @!Dr-WOOD : I think what 's happened is that we have new medications , we have effective medications , we have a better understanding of the disease . And ultimately we 're getting to the point where we hope that we 're going to be making it a chronic disease . @!SCHLESINGER : Because HIV is such a tough virus , it 's difficult to know what the numbers mean . But there are some encouraging statistics . Ten years ago the average life expectancy for a child born with AIDS was just one year ; today it is eight years . @(Footage-of-Angelie) @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) And in Florida , Angelie Diya has @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ and was n't supposed to live past five . She 'd been keeping her disease secret until two years ago when she told first her school , then the nation on our sister broadcast " Before Your Eyes . " qwq @ ( Excerpt-from- " Befo @!ANGELIE-DIYA : Hi . I have something important to say . I have HIV . I 've been keeping this secret because I did n't want to lose friends . qwq @ ( Footage-of-a-party Unidentified Man : Ready , one , two , three . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Today Angelie is hosting the social event of the year , celebrating her 13th birthday . @!Mr-RICK-DIYA : She had 20 friends here today . It keeps her healthy and alive and she 's happy . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Rick Diya is Angelie 's father . So what changes have you seen in her in the last couple of years ? Mr. @!DIYA : Boyfriends , talking to boys . @!DIYA : His name 's Jason . @!SCHLESINGER : And ? @!DIYA : And -- and he 's my boyfriend . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Like a normal @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ rebellion can be life threatening . Are you taking all the medicine you 're supposed to ? @!DIYA : No . Whenever I play with my friends , they do n't go off and , like , go take their medicine . Like , they do n't have to take medicine , like -- like , I may have to and , like , I want to be , like , normal , like anybody else . @!Dr-GRETA-CHIN-@1Pe : What occurs with most teen-agers , they get to the point where they get sick and then they get scared and then they start taking their medication again . @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) Dr. Greta Chin , Angelie 's pediatrician . What does that mean for her continued survival ? @!Dr-CHIN : I think what we have to do is not really focus on that aspect of it but focus on having her enjoy her life . Right now we still do n't have a cure for HIV , and if a child 's going to live for 15 years , you want that child to be able to enjoy those 15 years @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Jump in ! @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) What makes these young people so extraordinary is how ordinary they appear . qwq @ ( Footage-of-Joey-D ' @!SCHLESINGER : @(Voiceover) It is cruel to remember that AIDS is still incurable . Doctors still ca n't give these kids any promises , but they have given them time and now hope . D'PAOLO : I think that I 'll probably make it , with all the medicines and everything that 's coming and , the way I think , I 'll probably make it late 80s , maybe . I do n't know . @!RATHER : We at 48 HOURS have covered this epidemic , but we 've also been touched by it . Tonight we remember two of our gifted colleagues ... @(Photos-shown-of-Ro) @!RATHER : @(Voiceover) ... producer Rob Hershman and editor Ken Mooney . Their journeys ended much too soon . 